The VFR 1200

marshman · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: The VFR 1200

At least Yamaha let the FJR have a couple of years as a (relatively speaking) lightweight bike, before starting to pile on the gizmos and additional weight.
Honda seem to be adding all the weight right from the word go

And I know I've got to bow to the inevitable and get measured for some glasses, but am I the only one who when they first saw the PR photos (without knowing it was a honda) thought the round badge on the side of the fairing was the Bavarian propellor logo?

Liquidsilver · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject:

I don't need to mention that I think power shift gizmos are for sissies...

but Honda's dual clutch gizmo is head, shoulders, asses and elbows above Yamaha's mousetrap-like YCCS system.

On the new Viffer from Team Honda, I wish we could have a friggin article or two to find out if the rest of the bike is worth a crap, before we start talking about the geriatric options available. It'd be like hearing that BMW came out with a breakthrough 2-wheel drive bike, but all the press was about the new-improved ass warmer in the seat.

... jus' sayin' Rolling Eyes

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david1300 · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject:

woody · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject:

I think Liquid is just making a sarcastic point Dave. Wink

I thought the DN01 was suppose to have the best trans, now Honda make a duel clutch which give you the best of both worlds. Rolling Eyes

and do we need it?
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Murf · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject:

Good point Woody & the answer is NO its just another sales gimmick.
We are all competent riders & if people can't cope with the standard setup maybe they shouldnt be riding a bike.
All this technology is fine for a race track but do we really need it ?? I think not.
Give me a clutch & a gear change & let me play how I want to Very Happy

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Murf · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject:

Before i get a broadside I apologise to the guys who do benefit from a cluthless design.
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Liquidsilver · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:15 am Post subject:

What... me sarcastic???? Cry Larfin

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david1300 · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:54 am Post subject:

marshman · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject:

I'm with you Murf.
They still seem to be pitching the auto gearbox/auto clutch at stop start city type riding, but to me it looks like a very complicated solution to a problem that doesn't really exist

Two things spring to mind
A) Wouldn't have thought that city centre streets are really the VFR's target environment and
B) isn't stop start traffic why they invented the competitive sport of filtering? Laughing

gr8eyes · Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:39 am Post subject:

It doesn't seem to be getting great early reviews. It only gets around 160 miles on a tank of gas. Not a great touring range. I'm not sure what the weight is and I'm too lazy too look it up, but the 180 ponies sounds more than adequate.

Now about that new Ducati Multistrada 1200 4 in 1 bike. Very Happy

alan sh · Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:13 am Post subject:

You HAVE to ride it. It is mindblowing the way the torque comes in.

Alan
[Yes, I have ridden it - no I will not be swapping my FJR for it - maybe an additional bike if I can afford it]
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20valves · Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject:

gainsi · Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject:

I saw one for the 1st time at the WSBK expo at Phillip Island yesterday....why can't Honda build a good looking bike anymore ? This thing is as ugly as the Predator in the 1980's Arnie movie. It looks beautifully made, great attention to detail, small panniers though, but it makes the front of the ST1300 look like a thing of beauty...which it aint.

Don't 'they' get the aesthetic issues involved in a motorcycle purchase ?

Murf · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject:

My local Honda dealer has now got the demonstrator. Popped in today & i have to say the build quality is superb ( Take note Mr Yamaha ) The riding position felt really nice bit like the Blackbird but more compact. I personally think its too sports orientated & would not suit me as a touring bike.( But thats probably an age thing) My wife certainly would not like the pillion seat.
I rather think Honda have slightly missed the mark. Superb bike but i think not for serious 2 up fast touring.
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